Friday, December 15, 2006

Save VS Borrowing: Why Borrowing Is Stupid

(image from 1st Tennessee) One responder to my post the other day (on 0% credit cards) left this message,

I have to disagree with the premise and the following statement "don't spend (or invest) money you don't have."

The average home costs $170k in the US. Should someone not buy a home because they don't have 170k in cash?

Should a high school graduate forgo college because he doesn't have 30k for tuition & books?

Should you forgo medical treatment (even though you might die) because you don't have 10k for medical treatment?

The whole "don't spend money you don't have" sounds pretty stupid when you start putting things into context.


The short answer to this person is yes, and while his comment saying that the idea of not spending more then you have is stupid, is in fact well stupid. However, the poster is using the mindset of most Americans. Americans who will never be wealthy, because they want everything now, rather then following the advice of those who actually have money, like Warren buffet, Dave Ramsey or John Cummuta.

The key is to save for those big purchases, such as a house. John Cummuta even suggests you may have to borrow to buy your first house. However, what you do is buy a smaller house (a starter house) save up money as you pay off that house, then when the time comes to move into a $170k + house, you pay cash for it. The thing is when you borrow to pay for anything, you end up paying much more for it. For example over the course of 30 years you will end up paying the bank a half million dollars for that 170k house. How stupid is that? Why not save the money up and pay less. That is in fact how rich get rich and the richer get richer.
Take a look at Donald Trump, a great businessman, but a poor example of wealth building. How many times has he filed bankruptcy now?


Now for education, this is a common problem, but if a student graduating high school had truly wise and prudent parents, then they would have money saved up for their kids education. Dave Ramsey tells a story about a couple who had a few thousand saved for their first kids education. Now she was pregnant with a 2ND child and wondering how they were going to pay for the education of that 2ND child, who wasn't even born yet. Dave didn't have an answer, probably only be able to pay half of each child's education. That wasn't good enough for this couple, they returned to Dave a few months later and reported that the young father (a school teacher) had gotten a 2ND job over the previous few months, delivering pizza, to earn enough money to fund the newborn education.

These parents were wise, and they thought ahead enough, to even get a 2ND job, to make sure their kids future was met. So Mr. Rich Slick, if you want to really have enough money to be a "rich slick" then you will save rather then borrow and live within your means.

In fact the graph on this post (from 1st Tennessee) shows how much more a borrower will spend on education then a person who had saved. Rich Slick is that what you want for your kids? Sorry, but I want to provide better for my kids future then that.



this article has made it's way into other blogs. Mandy commented on D's post
I guess you mean to take the advice with a grain of salt. Aim high. Some people feel that if there's a loan on offer for 95% of the purchasing price, they should take it. Or if they can get student loans for their kids' entire education, they should go for it.

I think the aim should be to have as much of your own cash as possible. Get the smaller house if needs be, and pay it off earlier. Then it's an asset.

Plan for your kids' education instead of letting it sneak up on you (and them). If you have something to contribute, the debt incurred will be significantly less.

To me, it's all about an attitude adjustment from the "I want it all now" to "I want what is possible without huge debt"
It has also made it's way to GetRichSlick.

Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Did you hear about this? Recently Dean Hunt with Dean Hunt received emails from someone claiming that he (Dean) should remove his blog from Google search because the blog was ranking higher then the e-mailers business website. Funny stuff, that has made the top news websites this past weekend.

——-Original Message——-

From: xxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Date: 12/8/2006 xx:xx:xx PM
To: Dean Hunt
Subject: DeanHunt.com Google Removal Request

Hello Dean,

My name is [edited] and I run [edited].com

I have been running the site for over two years and we have been ranked very highly for the search term [edited].

On Thursday morning I checked our google positions and your site is now above us for this term. I haev checked your blog and it has nothing to do with [edited], so I think it would be best all round if you remove your blog from google for this search term.

Please understand that we make our living from this, and you are just writing a blog that has nothing to do with [edited].

If you do not remove yourself from google for this search, then I will call them myself and have you removed.

I expect a reply soon.

Thankyou.

[edited]
[edited].com

From: xxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Date: 12/8/2006 xx:xx:xx PM
To: [edited]
Subject: Re: DeanHunt.com Google Removal Request

[edited],

Dean here from DeanHunt.com

I just received your e-mail. My first question would have to be… Are you serious?

I had to re-read your e-mail three times to make sure my eyes were not playing tricks on me!

Here is some more info that may help you understand my stance on this:

a) I have never attempted to rank for the search term [edited], I seem to rank fairly well for [edited], which I suppose is fairly similar. But if Google prefers my site to yours then perhaps you should be asking yourself why that is.

b) There is nothing I can do about removing myself for that search term, nor am I going to attempt to do anything. I have no information on my site related to [edited], so I am sure that the searchers will generally visit your site instead.

c) You can contact Google if you wish! I doubt you will get a serious reply though.

Perhaps instead of wasting your time with e-mails like this you could work on improving your web site instead?

Anyway, good luck with contacting google, if you do get a reply, I would love a copy of their e-mail. I have prepared a nice little place on my wall to hang it from.

Take care,

Dean


Bizarre Google Request Update
December 11th, 2006

Good morning,

You are probably aware that over the weekend my “Bizzare google request” story was featured on many major news sites on the net. It has been discussed on thousands of sites and forums and the response was so high that my server crashed on two occasions. (Current total = 45,000+ readers)

I am honestly amazed by the response! I only posted the first e-mail on here because I thought it was amusing, and I was genuinly surprised to see the attention that it received.

Anyway, I have spoken to some friends and my plan was just to let this all calm down and for me to get back to normal. But I have received another e-mail from him this morning, and if you guys find it half as funny as I do then it is surely worth posting.

However, this time I have NOT replied to the e-mail. Quite frankly I am lost for words with this guy, and I am losing my patience.

So what I would like you to do is to use the comments box in this article and tell me what you think I should reply with.

Here is his e-mail:

Dean,

Firstly, I have to admit that I was not impressed with the sarcastic nature of your reply.

Secondly, I am writing to let you know that I have contacted Google and am awaiting their reply.

You have to understand Dean that an online business should be higher in Google than a blog.

Don’t forget that Google is a business as well, they obviously make more money from other businesses than they do from blogs, so it is in their interest that I am higher than you for certain searches.

I have also contacted my lawyer about this issue, so you should expect a letter in the post very soon.

I expect a reply soon.

I honestly don’t know whether to just block his e-mails or keep playing with this guy. At times his attitude makes me laugh, but at other times he really frustrates me that he thinks he can bully people like this.

Amazingly, I have had e-mails from other webmasters who have had similar threats to this. So it appears that the larger sites are used to using bullying tactics. But these tactics will NOT work on the internet and they will NOT work on me!

He may have a good lawyer, but I have got a blog and quite frankly I am used to playing the underdog, so I don’t scare easily.

I look forward to hearing your replies for this e-mail. I am currently looking down the side of the sofa to see if I can find a prize for the best reply.

Dean

You Can't Beat The Credit Card Companies

Yesterday, I received a comment from someone who said,


I'm still making $10/day on credit cards.


This is the same detractor who repeatedly tries to convince me that he is smarter then the Credit Card companies.

Repeat after me: A credit card is not money. A credit card is not money. A credit card is not money. A credit card is not money.

If you don't have real money at your disposal, you don't have any business even thinking about anything but the most basic of needs. Again: A credit card is not money. As Dave Ramsey (and John Cummuta) says, don't spend (or invest) money you don't have.

The thing is you don't know what will happen tomorrow. You may think your paycheck will be available to you on your payday, but what happens if the company goes bankrupt between now and then. Or maybe the "mail" truck delivering the checks to your location wrecks (breaks down, gets stuck, etc), delaying the checks. Borrowing from so called free credit cards is risky. The credit cards aren't stupid, they can tell what you are doing and trying to pull the wool over their eyes will only make you a higher credit risk to them rather then a better.

Michael Clarke writes in This is Money,

The practice, where a customer draws the maximum amount on a 0% card to either put in a high interest account or to offset a mortgage, has been popular with sophisticated card users since 0% deals first became popular in early 2000.

At the end of the 0% introductory period, stoozers (British term: those who borrow at 0% then invest the borrowed funds) either withdraw the money from where it has been invested and use it to pay off the full credit card balance, or switch to a new 0% deal.

...One way card providers are stopping customers doing this is by preventing them from transferring money into current or savings accounts. While it is still possible to transfer balances between credit cards, most card providers can now recognise bank account numbers and stop transfers to current accounts.


They also recognize other credit card numbers, and while viewing your credit report, they will see a lot of balance transfers between credit card companies. Eventually, they will say, "hey this guy is jerking us around," or something to that affect and start denying his credit. The person that thinks they are smarter then the card companies will begin to see their credit score (FICO) to drop.

Be leery of anyone like this guy, that tells you that you can beat the credit card companies.

Monday, December 11, 2006

Thank You Carlos

I would like to Thank Carlos for signing up for PayPerPost and using my email (on the right) as a referral, netting me an extra $5.

Thank you so much Carlos.

New Ebay Auction & Other Thoughts

It's time for to again try to help out my personal finances with some eBay sales, so after a few months break from the eBay selling, I am back to it again. I stopped a when a box of computer parts didn't sell twice. This time I have listed a brand new, unopened, still in the box Magic bullet to get the sales started off. I have two computer monitors, that I will probably be adding soon, as well.

My AdSense spots are doing OK. I don't have enough visitors to make them as profitable as I really need, but that is OK. They are doing better, then I had originally expected. I need them to be clicked on 3-21 times each day just to get a monthly check. That will come in time, as my readership increases. So far I have received one $100 check for the period between April and September. For the period since October 1st to present, I am half towards my 2ND check. It appears hat currently Google will be paying me twice a year. Every little bit helps.

Other sources of revenue are also sporadic, but as I have said every little bit help. That reminds me, I need to go and update the "Thank You Blog."

Friday, December 8, 2006

We Made The "Top 100 Blogs to read in 2007"


CHICAGO , IL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- December 8, 2006 -- Kevin Surbaugh, of Topeka, KS, was selected by the editors of CreditCard.org as one of the "Top 100 blogs to read in 2007."

He is in the hole approximately $20,000 - $19,890 to be exact. He is single and fully admits that he made some bad financial decisions in the past that made his debt swell. His debt is down from a 2006 high of $21,798 set in July, when he refinanced his car.

Overcoming his surprise, Surbaugh said that it was "an honor to be chosen to be on this list." Writing DebtFree4ever, is a fun hobby. "I enjoy reading every comment, even the ones I disagree with," he said.

Surbaugh had been writing a political blog at this time last year, but in lateed March (2006) he started DebtFree4ever.net and inside one month, had 4 times the readership of the political blog. He said it was a "no brainierer" of which blog should get all his attention and shut down the other blog, putting the name KevinsView.com up for sale. Since those early days, DebtFree4ever has grown to better then 200 readers each week with new readers joining all the time.

Because Surbaugh has a blog, his experiences are open for everyone to read about. All of his financial health is charted and graphed for the world to see.

These graphs show snapshots of how much he owes and when he expects he is going to be debt-free. You can check this out for yourself at http://www.debtfree4ever.net.

Blogs, like Surbaugh's, open a window into a person's struggles. CreditCard.org recognizeses these bloggers as the "Top 100 Blogs to read in 2007 ."

See other blogs nominated for the national award:



CreditCard.org collects nominations for Lemon Award for Bad Banking from consumers all year long. Send them to Problems@CreditCard.org .

Thursday, December 7, 2006

A penny saved is a penny earned

Ok so the other day, I posted an article on 33 lessons from mom regarding finances. Today, I will make my second post as I go through the list 1 by 1.

Rich M. said,

Why did your mom place so much importance on your piggybank as you were growing up? Because money saved does grow, due to this magic fertilizer called compound interest. Mom’s recommendation - when your paycheck comes in, set up an automatic withdrawal from your checking account so that 10 percent is saved immediately. While the pinch may be felt for a few months, pretty soon it will be replaced by the bulge of the fattening savings account.


I have heard some say that saving a penny now days isn't worth the effort. Wel I disagree. You can save a penny a day doubled everyday and be a millionaire in 30 days. Of course, eventually it isn't practical,unless you already have the million dollars. However, if you save a penny a day at age 15. Then the next year save 2 pennies a day and the next year 4 and so on, along with the compounded interest over the years, you could be a millionaire by the time you are 45 or 50. That is provided that you never dipped into that savings and you always continued to ad more to that savings account. A penny is still worth saving. Perhaps thats why so many aren't wealthy. Well besides all the overspending so many of us do.